Walker Has Not Communicated with God

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) frequently says he’s waiting for “God’s calling” to run for president, so he was recently asked under public records laws to provide call “a copy/transcript of all communications with God, the Lord, Christ, Jesus or any other form of deity.”

Walker’s office responded that no such records exist.

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  • Chris Leatherman

    Good thing too. Something tells me if God communicated with the Republicans the message they received would not be pretty

    • FakeBillyTubbs

      So true. Republicans bad and evil and Democrats good. Think God would love partial birth abortion and voting against Born Alive Infants Protection Act though?

      • Chris Leatherman

        I don’t think God approves of race baiting, bearing false witness and trampling the poor either. I know the Republicans love fetuses, but one they become viable humans outside the womb, not so much. Besides, it’s not the Democrats going around questioning people’s patriotism, inferring they are communists and making up stories about where the president was born and how he was raised. It is YOUR party, the Republicans.

        • cjwilburn

          Non Sequitur…

          He asked a question about a democratic platform, I’m not sure how berating republicans answers that.

          Besides there are so many holes in your “response” its comical… I seem to recall people questioning both McCain and Romney’s birth situations,Ted Cruz’s as well. Also I seem to recall a candidate a few years ago calling acts by a then current President unpatriotic.

          Now I know you are going to defend and argue everything I said, but you need to know that all sides do it, not just the evil republicans.

          • Wynstone

            That McCain and Cruz were born outside the United States is a matter of record. Personally, I don’t consider them disqualified for that.

            President Obama was “questioned” even after providing verified records. That is different.

          • TheUmpire

            His records have not been verified. Personally, I don’t know or care where he was born, but I can state unequivocally that the president has not produced an unaltered version of a US birth certificate. Not to mention the records at every college he ever attended are all sealed and he refuses to release them. Gotta love the transparency!

          • Wynstone

            You’re a rare breed these days! The unabashed birther!

          • Immolate

            Only if you refuse to abash him.

          • Wynstone

            I sense an invulnerability to that. It requires self-awareness.

          • So, you’re saying that intelligence is his Kryptonite?

          • Immolate

            Alas, intelligence is seldom self-inflicted.

          • TheUmpire

            Did you miss the first part where I said I didn’t care, but only stipulated that an unaltered BC hasn’t been provided? And I can safely say I’ve been fully abashed. Twice. But I got a shot and it cleared right up.

          • bpai99

            You may say you are abashed, when you should instead abase yourself.

          • Kearston Marie Miles

            You do care, or you wouldn’t of said said anything.

          • keyne
          • TheUmpire

            Ok, so I shouldn’t have used the word “sealed”, since it is not what I meant, but did accurately state that he refuses to release them. Any links to actual transcripts or any academic records from any college he attended would be appreciated… (And good luck with that!) You guys must be really “blissful”.

          • redcarol57

            I’d love to see his transcripts. But I’m an even rarer breed. I think he was born in the US, but since getting into Harvard is even more difficult to get in as a transfer student, I think he applied as a foreign student and therefore committed fraud.

          • terjeanderson

            My my, you certainly don’t let facts get in the way of the conspiracies you weave, do you?

            It may or may not be harder to get into Harvard as a transfer student, but that is completely irrelevant as that isn’t what he did.

            Barack Obama never transferred to Harvard – he entered Harvard Law in 1988 – five years after graduating from Columbia, spending the intervening years working in New York and Chicago.

            The only “fraud” is the shit you’re making up to satisfy your need to denigrate Obama. Sadly, not at all rare among those with severe cases of ODS.

          • Chris Leatherman

            Yeah, there were some loopy ones on our side playing silly games with McCain, who is constitutionally eligible. The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is we have a few people who push nonsense, the Republicans have an entire party. So, give me a break with the false equivalency BS.

          • I’m getting tired of doing this . . .

            Please don’t feed the trolls, folks, it only causes them delusions of adequacy.

            This one has obviously been listening to the talking points on Republican talk radio, and frankly has the patter down pretty well. It’s already acting offended by our “berating” Repubs, it attacks Chris’ comment as “comical” without actually addressing any real points. It finishes off with false equivalencies, as if making up and visciously spreading the canard that the President was born in Africa and is a secret Muslim is anything similar to the real Constitutional concern of the fact that McCain, Romney, and Cruz were respectively (and truly) born outside the borders of the U.S.

            Yeah, we have a bumper crop of trolls today.

          • Pain

            “I’m getting tired of doing this . . .”

            Then stop doing it. People are going to reply as they like and you trying to act like the only adult in the room is not helpful.

            ETA, and while I agree with you, I don’t like being preached at.

          • Actually, it’s been my experience that many trolls give up when they fail to garner the expected response. I find that not engaging them has frequently been the best way to chase them away. Arguing with them only gives them more motive to stick around and argue.

            I will debate an issue on its merits with a conservative who is willing to do the same. Posters like this one (along with Billy and Bugless) don’t deserve any engagement beyond what I did.

            This particular one hasn’t been back. Is that because it felt unloved by my comment? Can’t say, but I will continue to deal with them in the same way.

            You and I have exchanged a post or two in the past, both agreeing and disagreeing (mostly agreeing). As for what I do, please do not tell me to stop if I’m not being directly offensive, and I promise that I will make the same effort on your behalf.

          • Pain

            I’m glad to see the moderators here are dealing with the
            real problems appropriately.

          • And I note that when I said “Don’t feed the trolls” in response to this particular troll, one of the “Likes” I got was from our moderator.

          • Immolate

            Does it rub the lotion on its skin?

          • Kearston Marie Miles

            You didn’t say anything, it was just a bunch of senseless rambling. The response you responded to wasn’t non-sequitur., it was a continuation of things god wouldn’t like.

        • TheUmpire

          “Besides, it’s not the Democrats going around questioning people’s patriotism…” Are you just ignorant or intentionally stupid? The examples abound, the most popular example lately was when Obama said it was unpatriotic for Bush to add 4T to the national debt. You know, before Obama and the Dems added 8T and counting.
          “It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.” RWR
          And Obama was raised by communists and was once ran for office as a member of a communist party. No need to “infer” anything… *sigh*

          • Yep, they’re smoking something strong over at Breitbart today. What is this, our third or fourth one?

          • TheUmpire

            Awesome rebuttal!

          • TheUmpire

            Just google Obama and New Party…. And throw in Kurtz if you need to as he is the guy who did the leg work. The site won’t matter but the documentation will. Facts are stubborn things.

          • terjeanderson

            “Obama…once ran for office as a member of a communist party”…. oh, please do tell what right wing conspiracy website taught you that little gem …

          • Lumpenproletariat

            I think the punchline here is going to be, “Democrats are the REAL communist party!!!”

            Meanwhile, here in the real world, Obama has nationalized less things than Comrade Bush.

        • Memegalt2012

          But God would approve of keeping poor people poor? The Libs have just created another form of slavery

        • Isaiahdolan

          Race baiting is certainly a strong point for Al Sharpton, the guy who has made 22 visits to Obama’s White House and is good friends with de Blasio.

          Trampling the poor? Perhaps you are unaware of the increasing income gap under this administration. Were you aware that minorities were financially better off under the Bush administration?

        • armoredsaint

          what a parrot. Gee never heard that one before..”they love them until they’re born..” STFU.

          • Inkan1969

            Someone who spews out old slurs like “sodomites, baby killers and communists” calling someone else a parrot….

        • demsrscum

          As usual, the Dims want to re-write history.

          It was Hillary Clinton’s 2008 Primary Campaign that initiated the discussion of Obama’s birthplace.

        • the_brute_squad

          Give me an example of race baiting. I can. Everytime someone disagrees with Obama they are shot down as racist. No one claimed racist when Progessives disagreed with Bush and made movies about his assassination. Give an example about not caring about people outside of the womb. In regard to Communism, which Presidential candidate was endorsed by the Communist Party of America? Obama, McCain, or Romney. I’ll give you a clue, it wasn’t #2 or #3. Now try to respond without name calling and bring some facts. Conservative = Logic, Progressive = Emotion.

          • Kearston Marie Miles

            race baiting: providing a situation that tricks closet racists into showing their true nature.

          • the_brute_squad

            What a coincidence. That’s the same definition add Progressive Democrat! As a matter of fact, it’s the mantra Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton use.

          • Kearston Marie Miles

            How would you define it? The term is ludicrous.

      • Inkan1969

        As the anti-abortion movement is as much a perversion of God’s will into a violent and inhuman dogma comparable to al-Qaeda and Islamic State, I would expect God to be against it.

      • Inkan1969

        As the anti-abortion movement is as much a perversion of God’s will into a violent and inhuman dogma comparable to al-Qaeda and Islamic State, I would expect God to be against it.

      • Maerzie

        Individuals who kill their own babies, and the people who assist these murders are EACH guilty of their own killings. Nobody forces anyone to have abortions, as there were multi-millions of abortions even before the stupidity of Roe vs. Wade! Women have done their own, or procured their own illegal abortions since time immemorial! And, when legal abortion clinics are ended, women and butchers will again do all the abortions, even though many women will die of hemorrhage OR sepsis, and numerous children will be left motherless. We will AGAIN need orphanages! Abortions will not end. They will just go back underground, as they were BEFORE Roe vs. Wade. There will ALWAYS be selfish women, who kill their own flesh and blood!!

  • bpai99

    I’ll go out on a limb and predict Walker will soon “reveal” God told him to run for President. Just as God will tell Jindal, Santorum, Rubio, etc. etc.

    I just wish that when each of them who invokes God as his reason for running later fails to win, that they then admit it was God’s will that they lose.

    “I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.” – Susan B. Anthony

    • Gwyneth Hannaford

      Great quote. Thanx

    • mhandrh

      It’s been done before.

      George W. Bush said ‘I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can’t explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen… I know it won’t be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.’

      I am sure his god wanted him to be president, invade countries illegally, cause the deaths and aiming of tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands. I am sure god also wanted him to enrich the wealthy at the expense of the poor…..and the listing of his record goes on — you get the message.
      Susan B. Anthony was absolutely accurate in her statement.

      • montag

        Has it ever occurred to all of you that maybe, just maybe, God wanted George W. Bush in the White House? And that maybe, just maybe, He also wanted Barack Obama in the White House as well? Who can tell what God’s plan is? Then again, maybe He didn’t really want either one of them! Consider the following scripture verses:

        Psalm 75:7
        But God is the judge: He putteth down one, and setteth up another.

        And also…

        Hosea 8:4
        They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.

        • mhandrh

          Frankly, I don’t believe in folklore and myths, based upon primitive superstitions. The Bible was written by barely literate scribes, revised many, many times according to whoever was in authority at the time, and originally based upon oral tales originated from earlier superstitions, and mythology.

          • Immolate

            The Bible I read regularly was written by 47 scholars fluent in English, Koine Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and Latin, any one of whom probably had more education than your entire family dating back to the bone dance around the monolith. But no worries, I get that that isn’t why you don’t believe it.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            Interesting argument from authority.

          • Immolate

            I have binders full of logical fallacies to deploy at need. I was going to deploy the straw man, but he has already been reduced to dust in this comments section. Technically speaking, however, my post above was not an argument from authority, but rather spirited trash talking, completely appropriate to the post it was responding to. You guys do irony here, right?

          • BarryR

            yes, we do – with an occasional dose of snark on the side 🙂

          • montag

            Excellent post, Immolate. Actually, my understanding is that it was 54 scholars who were commissioned, but never paid, by King James. They were, however, later remunerated by the church.

          • Immolate

            “The task of translation was undertaken by 47 scholars, although 54 were originally approved.” – Wikepedia

          • mhandrh

            Yes, and all of them were many,many years into A.D. relying on political and religious teachings….based on what? Superstitions and myth.

          • Immolate

            I think you meant B.C., but you do realize that the Pentateuch is presumed to have been written by Moses, to whom only Genesis would have been written or oral tradition. This is all some really ancient stuff of course. But if you read it, the storybook character of the text ends after Moses is grown, and the documentary character begins. Everyone of a curious mind should read the Bible once, whether they believe it or not. It is the classic literature of humanity.

          • E_Grise

            “…the Pentateuch is presumed to have been written by Moses…”
            “The Bible I read regularly was written by 47 scholars fluent in English, Koine Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and Latin…”

            You may be one of the few people who believe that Moses spoke Greek. Either that, or you’ve lived with cognitive dissonance so long that you no longer even try to be consistent.

            You have started from the assumption that old knowledge is better than new, that discovery and analysis are impossible (and sinful?), that the simplified Stories from the Bible are all the depth we need.

            As such you do a profound disservice to the intellect with which humans are endowed. You also completely ignore the historical fact that most of the scribes of the Middle Ages were indeed illiterate – that they were copyists, human carbon paper.

            And you ignore the equally demonstrable fact that the “47 scholars” were limited in their literal understanding of – not to mention access to – the accurate lexicons and earlier source documents that have since been assembled; for example, that Mary was not said to be a virgin in early documents but rather an unmarried woman.

            I agree with you that people should read the Bible – for its literary value. But if they want to read the New Testament for its factual value, they should at the same time read a book like The Acts of Jesus. What Did Jesus Really Do? – not because they have to believe one or the other but because reading only one point of view is an abdication of intellect.

          • E_Grise

            “…the Pentateuch is presumed to have been written by Moses…”
            “The Bible I read regularly was written by 47 scholars fluent in English, Koine Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and Latin…”

            You may be one of the few people who believe that Moses spoke Greek. Either that, or you’ve lived with cognitive dissonance so long that you no longer even try to be consistent.

            You have started from the assumption that old knowledge is better than new, that discovery and analysis are impossible (and sinful?), that the simplified Stories from the Bible are all the depth we need.

            As such you do a profound disservice to the intellect with which humans are endowed. You also completely ignore the historical fact that most of the scribes of the Middle Ages were indeed illiterate – that they were copyists, human carbon paper.

            And you ignore the equally demonstrable fact that the “47 scholars” were limited in their literal understanding of – not to mention access to – the accurate lexicons and earlier source documents that have since been assembled; for example, that Mary was not said to be a virgin in early documents but rather an unmarried woman.

            I agree with you that people should read the Bible – for its literary value. But if they want to read the New Testament for its factual value, they should at the same time read a book like The Acts of Jesus. What Did Jesus Really Do? – not because they have to believe one or the other but because reading only one point of view is an abdication of intellect.

          • bpai99

            Those 47 scholars you cite wrote the Bible? And here I thought they were only translators. I should give them more respect, as authors deserve.

          • montag

            As I’ve never liked surprises, I tend to keep an open mind about spiritual issues.
            By the way, mhandrh, may God bless you.

          • Immolate

            It burns us!

          • mhandrh

            Feel free to believe whatever tales you wish.

      • TheUmpire

        You realize the “enriching of the wealthy at the expense of the poor” (a ridiculous notion, but I digress) has only gotten worse under Obama, right? And you realize that the NYT recently came out and said there were indeed Iraqi WMD’s, right? Facts are stubborn things…

        • mhandrh

          You are so wrong — I can only guess where you get your information — pre-digested to make it easier for you to swallow.
          1. The afflictions of the poor are the direct result of draconian actions by Republican governors — you cannot tell me one program or policy that was an Obama idea that hurt the poor.

          2. As for the NYT article on WMDs:
          The United States had gone to war declaring it must destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program.
          The discovery of old, degraded chemical munitions in Iraq is not news.
          Iraq had not produced any new weapons.
          Bush Administration never claimed that the NYT report validated their claim. In fact they have admitted they were mistaken.
          3. The Times report, far from vindicating George W. Bush, is actually just further proof of the gross political manipulation that lay at the heart of the disastrous conflict he started.

    • Mike

      Actually, god asked me to run for the presidency.

      I thought about it for a bit, then told him I’d think about.

      I was actually just blowing him off.

      I was like “Dude, you’re god, if you want me to be president, then make it happen.”

      Anyway, what’s the point in being president if god going to be telling you what to do all the time. I mean, like, who voted for him???

    • njguy54

      In some cases, it’s just proof that God has a sense of humor…

      • bpai99

        “God is a comedian playing to an audience that’s afraid to laugh.” – Voltaire

    • ronchris

      both Martin Luther King Jr. and Barack Obama have publicly stated that they have sought guidance from God. Neither has ever been mocked by the media.

      • bpai99

        Saying you are seeking guidance from God in a general sense is not the same thing as saying God told you specifically to run for President.

  • Billy Watson

    Ah, yes. People of faith – the official bigotry of the far left. Always good to see a supposed fair journalist toeing the Dem line

    • Wynstone

      Do you include Muslims in your group that should be above mockery?

      • Billy Watson

        Honestly, I try to give respect to all people. My main problem with Taegan is he wants to be thought of as “journalist” and in reality is a MSNBC style far left winger

        • Wynstone

          I didn’t know Taegan was trying to be thought of in any particular way.

        • When did Taegan announce that he was running a news service? Fill me in I want the sports desk

          • Too late. I already called dibs in 2013.

    • Chris Leatherman

      No, we only make fun of the hucksters of faith and those who want to shove their version of faith down everyone else’s throats.

      • Billy Watson

        Has Scott Walker done that?

        • Chris Leatherman

          With specific words, no, but in the construct of his policies, yes. His policies of shifting the tax burden to the working class and poor to benefit the wealthy and powerful run totally contrary to the teachings in the Four Gospels. It is such contrary teachings that compelled me to leave the Southern Baptist Church. The Jesus they came to speak of by the 1980s I didn’t know or like.

          • TheUmpire

            What specific teachings of Jesus are you referring to? Didn’t read a lot from Jesus about governmental tax policy except “render unto Caesar”, but even that was about individuals and not governments. I’m curious…

        • We make fun of a lot of things on this forum, anti-education union busters trying to pass themselves off as centrists for one, Koch brothers-funded hucksters who try to pass themselves off as independent as another.

          And of course, there are also posters to this forum who use sophistry as their main method of argument, trying to misdirect the discussion in order to portray themselves as the offended party and start their own argument.

          Just for the record, Chris said the following:

          ” [I]f God communicated with the Republicans the message they received would not be pretty.”

          You made the generalized accusation:

          “People of faith – the official bigotry of the far left.”

          Making the assumption that the people you attack on this forum represent the far left, and further assuming that the problems they have with the ultra-pseudo religionists who preach hate (by race, ethnicity, faith or lack thereof, or sexual orientation) makes them bigots does you no service.

          After Chris replied that we make fun of hucksters of faith, you accused him of making that statement specifically about Scott Walker.

          And I too believe that if God herself communicated directly with Scott Walker, it would not be a pleasant conversation, but that particular belief has nothing to do with whether Mr. Walker is a huckster of faith, merely that Mr. Walker is a political huckster and a demagogue.

          • Billy Watson

            The post of mine you quote was not in response to the posts of Chris that you quote. Really, is this your first day on the internet? Its been around a while

          • Please don’t feed the troll anymore. It just encourages it, and gives it delusions of relevance.

          • Immolate

            God talks to millions of people every day. Pick up a Bible and start reading it. That’s God talking to you. Whether you’re hearing it or not–now that’s on you. Whether any presidential candidate should step up to the lectern and “preach it, brother”, I’m not sure I’m a big fan either, but it’s one of those nearly universal affectations (like kissing babies) that they all seem to feel obliged to do. It’s worthy of an eye-roll.

        • BarryR

          Yes, he has. He has passed anti-abortion legislation and has promised more if he becomes President.

          • TheUmpire

            SInce when is anti-abortion legislation inherently religious? Much less a specifically Christian ideal? You understand science and logic, yes?

          • Immolate

            My religion is inherently anti-abortion. Not the same thing, I know.

          • Immolate

            My religion is inherently anti-abortion. Not the same thing, I know.

          • Inkan1969

            That just means you have the right not to choose abortion (and if you’re male, that’s actually easy) and to be free of any circumstances forcing you to choose abortion. But you can’t impose that religious belief on anyone else. If you try, you become equal with the religious fanatics we have been fighting in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

          • Immolate

            My religion is inherently anti-abortion. Not the same thing, I know.

          • Immolate

            My religion is inherently anti-abortion. Not the same thing, I know.

    • Inkan1969

      Islamic State members are people of faith; are we bigots to oppose them?

  • Wynstone

    No records? Not even a piece of toast with Jesus on it or anything?

    • you can petition the Lord with prayer

    • Well, they DO have a refrigerator with a mold culture on it that looks uncannily like Elvis. Does that count?

      • Wynstone

        No, but Cheetos that look like the Virgin Mary would be acceptable.

        • Immolate

          Why’s everbody always picking on the Catholics? Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

          • Inkan1969

            Scott Walker is not Catholic.

          • I think you may have missed the joke, Inkan.

            Immolate, you may need to put up a few snark warnings now and again for those of us who might miss the Python ref.

          • Inkan1969

            I recognized the Python ref. But, judging from his posts in general, I really don’t think he was snarking.

    • Snag

      That’s different. Because.

      • BuglessDuster

        Because everyone know’s Obama is lying when he says he prays.

        • Lumpenproletariat

          That’s right, “everyone” knows! The people who claim otherwise are just lying. Everyone knows that.

          Are you sure Obama just doesn’t pray to Allah, though?

          • Immolate

            No. but I’m relatively sure he doesn’t pray to anyone, although if any job could beat a man down to his knees and get him to pray, it’s probably POTUS. Nobody knows for sure but Obama and God what he believes, but the Bible says “wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.” So, like everyone else, I balance what I see with what I know and make a judgement to the best of my ability. What do you believe are Obama’s religious beliefs?

          • Lumpenproletariat

            “No. but I’m relatively sure he doesn’t pray to anyone,”

            Based on what?

            “What do you believe are Obama’s religious beliefs?”

            Well, what with the fact that he professes to be a Christian and has attended a Christian church, I’m going to say “Christianity” is a safe bet.

          • Immolate

            “Based on what?”

            Judgement, as I detailed. Explaining what goes into that judgment would require a rehash of the last six or eight years that would be exhausting to both of us and probably fruitless (another judgement).

          • Inkan1969

            Well, without that rehash, your “judgement” comes off as unreliable and irrational.

    • Wynstone

      Hoping one’s conscience (inner voice) is inspired by God is certainly different from saying you have “been called” to lead the nation.

      • Billy Watson

        snicker-snicker. Wait! Obama did it? Its OK, then. Must protect precious. Must protect precious

        • Wynstone

          I gave a rational response to an overly simplistic comparison. If you want to snicker, go ahead, but it’s not a rebuttal up to the standards of this site.

          • It appears time to say the inevitable:

            Please don’t feed the troll. It only encourages it.

            BillyTroll needs to go back to Brieitbart where it’ll feel more welcome.

      • BuglessDuster

        Really? Please explain. So if Obama hears an inner voice from God, it’s just an inspiration? So he’s being “inspired” to do something but not “called to” right? Very subtle nuance, huh?

        • Wynstone

          I don’t know if anyone is “called” to do anything. I’m a believer in free will and those who claim “the calling” in my book are insane or con men.

          I did not see anything in that link that led me to believe Barack Obama thinks he literally hears the voice of God.

          • BuglessDuster

            So Scott Walker is bat sh*t crazy and Obama is introspective? I get it. One’s a Republican and the other one is a Democrat.

          • Wynstone

            In my opinion, Walker is not insane, he is a con man. President Obama at no time invoked “God’s will” as his reason for seeking the presidency which is what Walker does with his terming it a “calling”.

          • BuglessDuster

            You’re splitting hairs, trying to draw a distinction between two irrational behaviors. Praying and meditating are the same thing. Both bring people to conclusions that they think came from somewhere other than their own subconscious or conscious thought.

          • Wynstone

            I’m drawing a distinction between actions. President Obama engaged on the topic of faith when he was asked to do so by an interviewer while Walker is essentially prostituting his faith to gain the favor of certain voters.

          • BuglessDuster

            There is no distinction except that one is done by Obama (perfectly normal and acceptable) and the other is done by someone the media is hell bent on destroying (a “religious zealot”).

          • Wynstone

            One privately prays and the other addresses the masses with proclamations that God’s path for him is not clearly revealed, but he will decipher whether the presidency is his calling very soon. Do they really sound the same to you?

          • Why are we suddenly getting this influx of trollery from Breitbart posters?

            First Billy and now Bugless . . . was there a cattle call for them?

            Remember when we used to get four or five new trolls every week during the 2012 election? Ah, those were the good old days . . .

          • BuglessDuster

            I’m not trolling. Trolling is when you call people names and are disrespectful. A guy says that God talking to Scott Walker is WAY DIFFERENT than God talking to Obama and I just asked him to elaborate on his position. He tried his best in a contorted, vague sort of way, but he gave his position and wasn’t disrespectful in his replies. No problem.

            Trolling is what “nycguy” did to me, but I’m not taking the bait.

          • Has anyone ever seen a troll who admits they are a troll?

            Thought not.

            Trolls come in many sizes and flavors. Many are not rude, but engage in sophistry just to tie up discussion. Bugless is that kind of troll. We’ll call it Type Two.

            You know, sometimes I really miss Texas Church Lady. Maybe we can get Herman Cain to run again in the early primaries . . .

          • BuglessDuster

            Whatever. You don’t want healthy debate; you want an echo chamber. Sorry to disrupt the echo. Carry on.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            What a fascinating assertion to make from someone who primarily frequents Breitbart.

            Tell me, if I went to Breitbart right now, how fast do you think I would be shouted down? How fast would I be banned?

          • BuglessDuster

            As long as you are civilized and don’t engage in personal attacks, you will never be banned. Disagreement is OK; insults aren’t.

            If you want to be banned immediately, try posting something that isn’t in lockstep with the Obama Administration at Media Matters’ website. They preemptively ban you and your comments will never see the light of day.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            “As long as you are civilized…”

            So in short, as long as I don’t act like the Breitbart posters that have flooded this comment section? Posting photoshopped pictures of Obama, personal attacks, and god knows what else that Terje has already had to delete?

          • BuglessDuster

            I didn’t see what you’re talking about. I can only speak for myself. I was polite and didn’t attack anyone personally. I’m simply one of those “radical” Constitutionists who believes in the rule of law. In other words, a potential terrorist according to the DHS.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            “I didn’t see what you’re talking about.”

            Get glasses.

            ” I’m simply one of those “radical” Constitutionists who believes in the rule of law.”

            As opposed to…?

            “In other words, a potential terrorist according to the DHS.”

            Now, that’s an accusation you’re going to have to elaborate a little bit on, there, sparky.

          • BuglessDuster

            “Sparky?” You’re getting close to a personal attack, but I’ll let it slide while I use Google just like you could to prove myself right.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            “…but I’ll let it slide….”

            Mighty big of you.

            “…while I use Google just like you could…”

            It’s not my responsibility to make your arguments for you, sorry.

          • BuglessDuster

            Just Google “DHS terrorist definition liberty lover.” I’d do it for you but I have to feed my unaborted 8-year old twin fetuses.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            “Just Google “DHS terrorist definition liberty lover.””

            And I get…WorldNetDaily, Infowars, and Freedom Outpost.

            Shocker.

            Did you actually read the START study? You should probably actually read the START study.

            Here, I’ll even give you the link, since I’m willing to back up my own arguments.

            http://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/files/files/publications/research_briefs/LaFree_Bersani_HotSpotsOfUSTerrorism.pdf

            They even added an editor’s note after the report was passed around the wingnut section of the internet.

            “First, at no point has any START study defined persons “suspicious of centralized federal authority” and “reverent of individual liberty” as terrorists. Instead, we assigned ideological classifications only to groups that have already carried out completed or attempted terrorist attacks”

            So, unless you’re admitting membership to a terrorist organization, they weren’t talking about you.

            I can hold your hand and go through the whole report, if you’d like.

            “I’d do it for you but I have to feed my unaborted 8-year old twin fetuses.”

            So this is the kind of civility that would be expected of me in the high-minded dialogue of Breitbart, is it?

          • BuglessDuster

            Here you go…sparky. I made sure I found it at a “reputable” site like CNN:

            http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/politics/terror-threat-homeland-security/

            People who believe their rights are under attack are potential terrorists and more dangerous than ISIS (the non-Islamic group).

          • Lumpenproletariat

            Please, point me towards what you find objectionable detailed in the CNN report. Are you a self-professed sovereign citizen?

            “People who believe their rights are under attack are potential terrorists…”

            That’s an interesting conclusion to draw from the CNN analysis of the report, since the report itself isn’t actually released to the public. Please, feel free to explain you’ve reached that conclusion from CNN’s report.

            Or are you referring back to the separate study that CNN also refers to, the START study? Because I linked you to that one, and that was the one referred to by the luminaries over at WND and Infowars in the google search you had me perform. And it doesn’t back up your claims either.

          • laughingdog

            Because everyone know’s Obama is lying when he says he prays.

            Yeah, real healthy debate you’re bringing to the table there pal. Hypocritical, much?

          • terjeanderson

            I remain convinced that Texas Church Lady had to be performance art

          • So do I, but I still miss her.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            I think Texas Church Lady might have been before my time. She was a poster here?

          • BarryR

            Yes – she was seriously hard core. Or performance art – hard to tell the difference sometimes.

          • terjeanderson

            Yes — a hysterical admirer of Herman Cain’s candidacy…. prone to waxing rhapsodic about Cain’s sexual prowess (yet simultaneously praising his further right political stances).

            It was an impressive performance, carried out over an extended period of time and never breaking character at all…. enough so that there were some real Poe’s Law times when it was hard to figure if “she” might actually be real.

          • Wynstone

            Maybe you aren’t trolling, but you’re also not responding to legitimate refutations of your arguments.

          • BuglessDuster

            I thought we both handled it well, but at the end of the day we still disagree. No harm. No foul.

          • terjeanderson

            Happens now and then, usually when an article gets linked to a RW site somewhere. It usually burns out with one story — the really nasty ones who violate basic civility get kicked out quickly, the others rarely return.

          • These are the days I definitely don’t envy you being a moderator.

          • Lumpenproletariat

            Fun while it lasts, though!

          • lostintheswamp

            i think you misunderstand meditation ,,,, ‘if you see the buddha on the street kill him’ suggests that answers aren’t found outside yourself … praying – and i have nothing against pray at all – suggests that there are answers outside yourself …. people should do what feels right for them … but i truly doubt that ‘god’ – for those who believe in a god – would ever be so crass or micro managing as to tell anyone to run for president

          • BuglessDuster

            You and I are in total agreement here and you actually make my point for me. “Answers” to prayers and no different than “conclusions” reached through meditation – they both come from between one’s ears. If you were to say that the belief that “answers” to prayers come from some outside deity or god makes them different/more powerful/more dangerous because they are trusted implicitly, I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with that either.

          • lostintheswamp

            i think i’ve lost the plot on this whole thing, but i don’t disagree with your response …

          • mhandrh

            Neither did I, as I explained to vermontaigne above.

            I spend a lot of time in self-reflection, seeking the”right” answers to problems, questioning myself, and looking beyond me to anticipate how my actions may affect others — I think that is a product of my conscience, my free will.

          • Matt M.

            “I think i have an ongoing conversation with God”
            http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thedudeabides/obama-on-faith-the-exclusive-interview/

            There literally is no difference between what Obama said and what Walker said.

          • Wynstone

            Yes, there is. One says he speaks to God and the other implies that God actually answers with specific instructions.

        • nycguy

          Don’t you mean Allah? I thought he was Muslim!

    • mhandrh

      To say that you constantly try to analyze your motivation and review your behavior and desires in seeking a deeper truth — is that what you mean by praying like Obama?
      Frankly, an honest and sincere person would indeed try to analyze himself and his motivation.

      A delusional person would say that god spoke to him personally and told him to take action.

      • Why don’t you ask Scott Walker what Obama means by that? Only a delusional person wouldn’t expect Scott Walker to have the answer, right? It’s not like anyone’s going to ask Obama.

        This is intellectually dishonest and lazy. I personally don’t believe Obama is religious at all. I think it’s a posture for the rubes. People like you. People who go ape because someone doesn’t think he should have to affirm Obama’s Christian faith, which is so important to Obama that he’s constantly putting off the tee time to get to church. Because he obviously cares so much about not inconveniencing people when it comes to his fundraisers and so forth. Wink, wink. And, as for laziness, only a complete jackass could post something this stupid, assuming that Obama would not have made such a claim.

        • terjeanderson

          Speaking of complete jackasses… this is a place for actual political conversations, not spewing unprovoked personal attack on other posters.

          Say goodbye… you’ll have to go back to posting in other fetid places on the web where that is the standard of behaviour.

  • mhandrh

    There should be psychiatric evaluations on those who claim to hear messages from a spirit in the sky.

    • lostintheswamp

      there are if you are poor and/or homeless ….

  • nycguy

    Okay I am by no means a fan of Walker, but that was a stupid request to make of him. They weren’t making fun of just him, they were insulting the whole religion.

    • terjeanderson

      The foils who made the request were the “Freedom from Religion Foundation”, an atheist advocacy group. I assume that their goal was, in fact, more focused on religion than Walker (although they probably thought of it as some kind of two birds/one stone thing to push their agenda….)

      • nycguy

        Well I guess they succeeded. Atheists need to learn tolerance too.

        • BarryR

          On their behalf (not one myself) I would say that when someone claims to be waiting for divine revelation to determine one’s political future, that same person can just as easily claim that his election was God’s will, and that his legislative program was signed off on by the Almighty. This, to put it mildly, stifles debate. So if you are waiting for God to print the bumper stickers (or at least put out a yard sign) before you run, I’d like some evidence of His campaign advice.

  • wolfman

    Don’t you think in Walker’s case, “The Devil made me do it” might be more fitting?

    • AKRebel

      plural…devils 🙂

  • njguy54

    It’s less about receiving cosmic instructions than an opportunity/excuse to say the word “God.” Because in modern right-wing politics, saying “God” is like collecting coins in Super Mario; the more you do it, the bigger and more powerful you get.

  • CA_Guy

    Funny, I thought he had a direct line to the Koch brothers.

  • OldBlindBob

    Your infantile and shallow understanding of spirituality is a good indication of the smallness of your mind. Christians don’t think of God as an old man in a robe, but you obviously think they do. That’s your ignorance showing, not theirs.

    • keyne

      As a graduate of several years of Sunday school, I can assure you that plenty of Christians think of God as an old man in a robe. Maybe you’re fortunate enough not to have encountered the breed, but many of us have.

  • boardwalkrat

    Well, that was childish. What’s next, setting a bag of dog poop on fire on his doorstep and ringing the bell?

    • Lumpenproletariat

      Isn’t that right up James O’Keefe’s alley?

  • I see the bloggers-wanna-be-journalists are still making fools out of themselves with this story. Self-awareness? No one?

  • Clif Moffat

    Such is the sad state of “journalism”, as exemplified here.

    • Immolate

      Dude it’s just a blog.

  • Mercyneal

    Um, Mr Goddard? Surely you must know someone who is a member of a 12 Step Program. One of the steps talks about working towards “a conscious contact” towards God.

    • Lumpenproletariat

      I suspect if god ever communicates back in that situation, it’s a sign that the 12 step program isn’t working.

  • delnurse

    Poor Walker, he is waiting on God’s call. But God has blocked all calls inbound and outbound to Walker.

  • pisher

    Maybe God’s twitter account was deleted? They should have taken a screen shot or something. I don’t really know how it works. Probably God has problems figuring it out as well. 🙂

  • jack crabb

    “And certainly for me, this is always a chance to reflect on my own faith
    journey. Many times as President, I’ve been reminded of a line of
    prayer that Eleanor Roosevelt was fond of. She said, “Keep us at tasks
    too hard for us that we may be driven to Thee for strength.” Keep us at
    tasks too hard for us that we may be driven to Thee for strength. I’ve
    wondered at times if maybe God was answering that prayer a little too
    literally. But no matter the challenge, He has been there for all of
    us. He’s certainly strengthened me “with the power through his Spirit,”
    as I’ve sought His guidance not just in my own life but in the life of
    our nation.”

    -Remarks by President Obama at National Prayer Breakfast

    Maybe all you leftists can criticize him too.

    • BarryR

      Hoping that God gives you the strength to do the right thing, or gives you the strength to survive a great struggle, is a reasonable position for a person of faith. Waiting for God to give you marching orders is a whole different thing. There is nothing wrong with talking to God, the problem is when you think God is talking to you.
      Lastly, I quote Lincoln:

      Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.

  • jimbeaux

    Now, when I talked to God I knew he’d understand
    He said, “Stick by my side and I’ll be your guiding hand

    But don’t ask me what I think of you
    I might not give the answer that you want me to”

    – “Oh Well” – Fleetwood Mac

  • sikntyrd72

    So narrow minded. A transcript??? really? Do you know who God is? He doesn’t do transcripts. That’s an earthly thing. You need some serious searching.

  • armoredsaint

    Says the sodomites, baby killers and communists.

    • Inkan1969

      It’s religious extremists like al-Qaeda and Islamic State that throw around slams like “sodomites, baby killers and communists”. Christian oriented extremists like armoredsaint are as much a threat to this country as Muslim oriented extremists.

  • HansonBro

    No one named “Taegan” is in a position to mock anyone, let alone Scott Walker.

    • Inkan1969

      Scott Walker puts himself in a position to be mocked by everyone through his own deplorable behavior.

      • HansonBro

        Beating recalls and getting re-elected in a landslide.

        Yup, the natives really hate him.

        • Inkan1969

          Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and Osama Bin Laden could always draw huge crowds of supporters as well, regardless of how the rest of humanity see them.

          Anyone who crawled out of Breitbart, whose ideology personifies hate, is in no position to call anyone else a hater.

          • HansonBro

            If big crowds are your bete noir, you must have really freaked at Obama’s “Greek Column” speech in Denver.

          • Inkan1969

            YOU were the one who tried to argue that just having a big crowd of supporters was enough to justify a politician’s actions. I was pointed out examples where that’s obviously not true.

          • HansonBro

            No, I stated 2 facts:

            1. He beat the recall easily
            2. He won in a landslide

            Debate amongst yourself.

          • Inkan1969

            1. Neither of those facts were the topic of this thread. We were talking about Walker’s dangerous mixing of religious dogma into his government policy. So your post was an attempt to derail the thread off topic.

            2. Why state these facts to begin with, other than to imply that Walker is justified just by attracting a big number of supporters? His actions are still reprehensible regardless of how many are reprehensible enough to embrace him.

            3. His electoral wins have been between 6 to 8%. That’s not landslide level, but you carelessly exaggerate his support.

          • HansonBro

            1. You might be talking about “dangerous mixing”, but the article tied to this comment thread is Goddard’s paragraph above. Who made you comments chief?
            2. Your opinion of his policies may be your own, but they are not shared, at least not by a plurality of Wisconsin voters
            3. His election margins were larger than Obama’s, and in a state that is purple.

            Tell me …..When do you graduate?

          • Inkan1969

            1. What do those “facts” (Walker won; you’re trying to pass those off as “landslides”) you posted have to do with Goddard’s blog post?

            2. You seem to think that having a plurality is all you need to justify your acts.

            3. Obama’s 2012 win was not a landslide either. Who said it was? So, you can’t use Obama’s 2012 numbers to assert that Walker won by a landslide.

            When are you ever going to graduate, as you keep displaying an absence to stick to the topic at hand and an inability to follow logic that makes you unqualified to graduate from high school.

  • boardwalkrat

    Well, that was childish. What’s next, calling him up and asking if he has Prince Albert in a can?

  • Maerzie

    Since Walker’s TRUE “god” is money, I’m sure he has communicated with his true “power” quite frequently! Obviously, he has no clue of the TRUE God, or a HINT of it would be visible in some of his “works” as governor!! There is NONE!! Everything he has done is self-serving and self-indulgent, including the various legislation he commandeered, as payback to his financiers!! NONE of it is for average, normal human beings, who were brainwashed enough, to vote for him! OR, were THINKING enough that they didn’t!