• richo123

    I refuse to call Donald Trump a turd because that would be politically incorrect. Instead I will only call him “unfit to be President”.

    • APV

      Politically incorrect because that would be insulting to the turd?

      • ArkonaRus

        Correct. Turds provide something useful in this life..

    • vidarien

      Agreed. That being said…

      Nothing this man does makes his numbers go down. Nothing. Its safe to assume that naturally, his numbers will only increase from this.

  • jrforbo

    clever the way he says he won’t do what he is in fact doing

    • RG 5626

      That’s been his MO on quite a few occasions.

      • jrforbo

        like his hope that Rafael’s eligibility issues get taken care of quickly

  • APV

    How does this end? The feud is not just between Trump and Kelly.

    Fox News put a very demeaning statement yesterday that said that network officials “had learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president.” The statement added that Trump “has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings.”

    Do we have to go through such drama for another 9+ months if he is the nominee?

    • JavaMan

      NewsMax sought to launch a “conservative alternative” TV network a few years back. Maybe they finally do and end up buying their way into the bundle with some money that would have otherwise been wasted in a Super PAC.

      And, of course, cable being so much more diverse than it was when FNC launched 20 years ago, they may be able to convince themselves they’re moving the Overton window in American political dialogue to the right. But I’d bet it ends in tears, like Sarah Palin’s “TV channel,” with the best case scenario being something like The Blaze, quarantined away for extremists in age and ideology.

      Meanwhile, regularly scheduled news will have to either pick a side or play chicken little.

      I wonder if all those Mid-Western Senators would want midday TV spots hugging their nominee with the obligatory fundraising dinners later that night if it’s someone so toxic.

      • Snakegirl Lyn

        (Shrugs) How’d they handle Darryl Issa’s slimy embrace?

    • Yes, we do (or, we will, or we would). Trump’s candidacy is the denial of the meaningfulness of real issues. Instead we can fantasize about regaining our lost potency and indulge in paranoid, nativist escapism.

  • OBforObama

    So he’s gone PC now. Honey Boo-Hoo is scared of a lightweight. I’m sure Putin is quivering in terror at the prospect of a Trump Presidency.

    • Snakegirl Lyn

      Not really. He’s just appearing to take the high road while actually not.

  • fgtayl01

    Trump should host the Oscars. He’d be great – and he knows it.

    • JavaMan

      Twinkle toes over here took three years of tap. He’s a regular Neil P. Harris.

  • hdavis

    Trump must secretly be in love with her. It’s like those grade school crushes.
    “Why did you pull her hair?” “Because I like her.”

    • And we must be in love with both of them, because we can’t stop talking about it. Meanwhile, Rubio is in Iowa talking to thirty people too old to make it to the caucuses.

      • RG 5626

        It must be crunch time if even Rubio is out campaigning.

  • CSStrowbridge

    Obama beat Romney by 11 points among women. How big of a lead would Hillary Clinton have over Trump? 20 points? 25? More?

    • jrforbo

      stay tuned, we may find out

      • CSStrowbridge

        I can’t wait.

    • APV

      20% of Republicans and 59% of women in a poll think that a Trump presidency would be an embarrassment. A 20 plus point lead among women would mean double digit popular vote margin, which would be electoral bloodbath for the Congressional Republicans. Many mainstream Republican voters may sit at home if the only choice is Trump or Clinton, and that would hurt all down ballot races. The likes of Ayotte, Portman, Toomey, and even McCain cannot cover the spread and survive if Trump is at the top of the ticket. Panic would be an understatement if Trump wins IA.

      • Better Left Said

        I think you overestimate a potential margin between Trump and Clinton. Clinton Derangement System has been festering for decades in the media, and there is a certain portion of even Democrats (thinking of the older, white males here, but there are others) who may never cast a vote for Hillary. With so many who sit out from voting for Trump OR Clinton, expect a lower turnout election (by POTUS election year standards, but still higher than mid-terms) which will cause a narrower margin between the parties. I can’t see the spread being any larger than 9%, and actually expect it to be more like 4% to 6%. I expect (and hope) the demographics are still too steep for a Republican to win in 2016, and I look forward to Hillary’s first term in a little less than a year.

        • APV

          There are too many variables to estimate the margin. For one, Hispanics will turnout in much higher numbers. Trump’s favorable rating among Hispanics is in the teens. McCain got 32% of Hispanic vote and lost the popular vote by 8. if Trump gets below 20% Hispanic vote and loses women vote by 20 points, he will lose the popular vote by double digits.

          I think that may not happen as there may be a Republican centrist like Huntsman who will run as an independent – like John Anderson in 1980. Such a candidate could help siphon Republican votes and keep the margin lower.

          • Better Left Said

            Another variable to take into account is African American voters. Will they turn out in the same numbers as they did for Obama, and will they be as loyal to the D’s if a celebrity gets the GOP nomination?

          • APV

            The Clintons have deep ties to the African American community. Even at the height of the impeachment trial, Bill Clinton’s approval among AAs was above 80%. If Trump is the nominee, AAs are not going to vote for him in large numbers as he has been using unspeakable words against Obama.

          • SeattleDemo

            More net Republicans will vote for Hillary than we net lose among African Americans. My GOP friends…people who bathe regularly and can read…are dismayed.

          • Snakegirl Lyn

            There may be some AAs like Ben Carson who may put up with Trump’s bs, but I think plenty of AAs are well aware of the verbal diarrhea Trumpenstein has been spewing. I doubt they will grin and flock to the polls for him.

          • Better Left Said

            I agree there may not be African Americans flocking to the polls for Trump. My fear is that there will not be the same enthusiasm for Clinton as there was for Obsma, and that many AA’s may choose to not vote at all. Hillary needs to really articulate the narrative that she would be the candidate to save and cement Obama’s legacy as opposed to any of the GOP candidates who would strive to tear it all down.

          • Better Left Said

            With the electorate locked in at pretty 45% voting R or D no matter what, what will the squishy other 10% do? I’m pretty much saying there is no way the margin is +10% in the general election in a two-way race. And can you see 100% of the middle going one way in a two way race? (Three candidate math gets trickier with the margins, so let’s not get too much into that until it’s a thing. A Bloomberg fares differently than a Huntsman, etc.)

          • APV

            I think Bloomberg scenario happens if Sanders and Trump are the nominees.

            Trump has high negatives even among Republicans – only Jeb has higher negatives. 20% of Republicans in a poll think that a Trump presidency would be an embarrassment. That would mean Trump’s ceiling may be 42-43%, not 45%.

          • Better Left Said

            I agree on the conditions for the Bloomberg scenario. I still think Hillary will get the nomination though. Not sure who may come out of the woodwork to pose a third candidate bid in that scenario, if anyone.

            I pray you’re correct about the Trump ceiling. I worry that it’s been wrong every time I’ve heard it estimated thus far.

          • SeattleDemo

            Just among the knuckle draggers. Remember this is the same country which re-elected B. Hussein Obama with a 7.9% unemployment rate against a lily-white Ken doll. Don’t forget we collectively aren’t a bad group when we actually vote.

            And the electorate that did the aforementioned has only improved.

      • jrforbo

        nice scenario

      • SeattleDemo

        In my most eloquent and expansive voice…ditto!

      • Snakegirl Lyn

        Mass ritual seppuku would be an understatement if Trump gains the nomination.

  • Karl Hudnut

    To be totally fair she is a lousy journalist. Really an entertainer. Not as bad as, say Hannity, but pretty crappy at reporting on a factual basis, or asking questions of substance. Trump is also really just a silver spooned entertainer himself. None of his utterances in the guise of policy are realistic. It is a spat fitting of one of those Thanksgiving comedies we love so much. And it is a fitting example of what has become of the GOP. Who is going to help the GOP. Reince? He is equally buffoonish. They are hoist on their own petard.

    • jrforbo

      let’s think….. I wonder how she got that job?

      • Delphine

        I know this is disloyal to my sex but I cannot resist:

        • Snakegirl Lyn

          No disloyalty taken. 😊 Hey, if we haven’t tossed Camille Paglia out of the Girl’s Club and we aren’t actively campaigning to export Sarah Palin, An. Coulter, and Laura Ingram to Syria this one pic won’t hurt your standing. 😉

    • 66kicks

      She’s on Fox News. She doesn’t have to report the news, only comment on it as directed by her bosses.

      And sit there and try to look pretty.

    • andereandre

      You are a bit harsh on her here.
      She is performing above (the low) average on interviewing.
      She sold herself short though by becoming one of the Fox bimbo’s.

    • fgtayl01

      She quotes him, reads his website, and ask what he means.
      Journalism at its worse.

    • Snakegirl Lyn

      Accurate and well-said.

  • TimWolfe

    “She is a lightweight journalist whose total fluff questions I am afraid to face.”

  • granna129

    What’s with the “politically correct” business? I thought Trump was busting that myth.

    • Snakegirl Lyn

      He just pulled a verbal fast one.

  • 66kicks

    “I know bimbos. Bimbos are friends of mine. Megan Kelly, you are no bimbo.” — T Rump

  • timpundit

    I wonder what the gender gap will be this time around? 80/20? 70/30? 120/-20?

  • Snakegirl Lyn

    Oh he’s good. He’s a disgusting carnival barker, but he’s good.

  • slaymon

    And he’s afraid of her? What a wimp. I’ve a feeling Trump’s a rich moron, who surrounds himself with “yes men” so he is ALWAYS right.

    • Snakegirl Lyn

      Not really. (Referring to him being afraid.) As even Rush Limbaugh has been able to figure out-Trump just sucked all the O2 out of the room, insulted Kelly, pinned his absence on her, and riled up his followers. All in one statement.

  • Not only politically incorrect, but grammatically incorrect–little-known fact. “Bimbo” is a word meaning “babe” in Italian, but it’s masculine. Megyn would be a “bimba”, if he wanted to go there.