• Except the ship is still floating. It’s just Starr that sank. :0D

    • lookolook

      Can we just say the ship threw its bad captain into the sea?

      • NorthboroughDan

        Walked the plank? The ship is in rough weather but is not going to sink.

    • faithless delegate

      O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
      The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won,
      The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
      While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;

      But O heart! heart! heart!
      O accursed dress of blue,
      My captain bailed overboard
      (hey there, Texas Lou)

  • EricFromTheHill

    It’s not the ship, idiot. It’s what you allowed to go on under your leadership, or lack thereof.

  • drzaius

    There’s a BJ joke in there somewhere.

    • ||| Jus’speakin’th’truth |||

      As opposed to, “the captain goes down on the ship”?

    • L2thaL

      Good ship lollipop?

      • TnkAgn

        Good ship Polka Dot.

    • NewCitizen

      Thar she blows??

  • rightwingrick

    When leaders think an “unfettered free market” always works best, and do little to put constraints on the processes that could lead to dysfunction, they risk being victimized by their own philosophy. “Hands off” rarely works that well over extended time frames, because there are those who do take advantage.

  • andereandre

    He was a horrible person who is not so horrible now. Just let him go to oblivion and save the bits on commenting on him any further.

    • growe

      No way. Presidents are held accountable for their staff.
      Starr is being held accountable and has earned no exemption from justified opprobrium and scorn. Bill and Hillary must be high fiving in private.

      • andereandre

        Starr was not (formally) on anyone’s staff.
        I have no doubt that the Clintons enjoy everything bad that happens to Starr, I would too.
        But he is ninetieths news like all the other stuff they try to dig up to no avail.

        • growe

          The board of regents names the President. Starr had bosses. And those bosses signing his easy paycheck fought to defend him until the stench of evidence made him untouchable. They deserve a hell of a lot more condemnation and God willing legal jeopardy as enablers of rape.

          • andereandre

            Hey, this is not your style of posting!
            Depressing weather in Switzerland too?

          • growe

            I know right? I am in Vienna, some rain but not much. Heading home tomorrow thus posting to take edge off end of a nice short vacation!

        • lookolook

          Yeah, we like saying “the stuff doesn’t work anymore”. If the stuff doesn’t work, they wouldn’t be trying desperately digging them up. Fellow Americans have short memories and they love bad drama. Careful not to ignore the enemy or cede any territory to them. It’s fire for fire. A whole swath of American voters love that stuff. If not, Trump wouldn’t be neck to neck with Hillary! It’s really annoying!

    • Krusher

      What makes him not so horrible now?

      • lookolook

        Yeah, what makes him into a forgiven fallen angel now?

    • lookolook

      Not so fast. We need to have our bucketful of laughs from the hilarious irony. The judge is judged, the victimizer is victimized and the Starr is starred down – what irony!

  • growe

    Forget that it’s Ken Starr, who is a partisan douchebag.
    Whoever it is? Yes the captain goes down with the ship. For good reason.

    The captain is paid most and most experienced.
    He’s paid for wisdom, judgement, leadership, attention to detail.

    The captain is not paid to nap through lunch. The fact that this captain prosecuted a President on consensual sex just makes his proper demotion mighty tasty.

    Of course without his partisan stunts he would never have gotten that job.
    So even tastier: they hired the wrong captain for the wrong reasons.
    Surprise! He sucked ass. The victims should aim to bankrupt HIS bosses now.

    • lookolook

      I always like your angles to issues. Bravo!

  • dory

    He’s lost the presidency but he’s still the chancellor. He’s simply been sent to a lower deck.

    • L’Homme Armé

      He was removed as president last Thursday, and resigned as chancellor today.

      He still teaches in the university’s law school.

      • littlejohn

        Ok, I thought he was still president. Thanks for clarifying.

      • dory

        Thanks for the update!

  • L’Homme Armé

    This is the one thing I’m aware of where Ken Starr has ever shown integrity. In no way does this balance out his other actions, but I won’t criticize him for this.

    • growe

      I started there. Then I remembered that pompous ass turning a failed real estate deal investigation ( where he found nothing on the Clintons) into a sex witch hunt.

      These rape victims at his school, it is as if a naked bleeding woman came crying to his door, and he closed it without calling the police.

      He deserves much worse than he has gotten, I pray he might still get it.

      • lookolook

        Sure he will. The wheel of justice…

      • MVH1

        Not defending him in any way but this is quite a fall. There’s all the real stuff, disgrace, demotion, loss of credibility, humiliation, having your shortcomings cast a shadow across your entire public career. It’s probably a lot bigger than you know. Disgraced in his old age. That’s a serious visit from Karma. I’m a big believer in Karma. It always comes to be paid back and usually when it has the most impact.

  • exObjectivist

    How nice! Maybe the ‘Captain’ of Trump University will go down with his ship, too…

    • lookolook

      Trump “University” the fake entity should be investigated to death, but trust our Press and Media. They always leave the real for the absurd. It’s what they do!

  • littlejohn

    I think Starr is still with Baylor as president, and he’s also teaching adjunct law classes. The university should have separated themselves completely from him, but that’s not what has happened, AFAIK.

    • Stormageddon Bloodstar

      Nope he was removed from president earlier.

      • littlejohn

        Good to know. Thanks.

  • mhandrh

    The hateful Starr has a bit of a conscience and can see his own hypocrisy?
    If so, he is among the last of the Republicans.
    Of course he should step down — he should feel embarrassed — he conducted an expensive two-years-long “investigation” into sexual misconduct by two consenting adults.
    Self-righteous and sanctimonious Starr — has to eat a bit of crow.
    Baylor should have asked him to leave — and he should do so.

  • elvis2086

    He said he resigned as “a matter of conscience.” Too bad he really doesn’t have one.

    • Coterie

      Well, he didn’t say it was his conscience.

    • lookolook

      Yeah, conscience of an empty tin can!

  • dionysus_finch

    “Do we really wanna witch hunt the President of the United States over a BJ?” – remember asking that back in the ’90s?

    “Oh, but, it wasn’t the BJ, it was the lying, the cover-up! He can’t be trusted!”

    Heh. A fitting end to the career of the man who brought that upon us.

  • BlueTex

    Lewis Black said in 2000: You never prosecute an asshole with an even bigger asshole…because it just makes the first asshole look like an ordinary rectum.

    • embo66

      Proof positive that this theory is extremely sound: The GOP’s desperate embrace of Ted Cruz this spring.

    • Curt Richardson

      I’ve been waiting to ask you. What do you think of Hillary’s chances of carrying Texas?

      • BlueTex

        Wow, what a question! When I saw that bit of news yesterday I got the feeling it was a campaign tactic to get Trump to spend resources here. I’ve lived in this state for 34 years; first in the border towns and now in Houston. I’ve traveled most of the northern, central and eastern part of the state. My gut tells me that it’s premature to say Texas will turn blue. The Democratic party is really a joke here. There is no organization or solid infrastructure to build on. The candidates we put up are really sacrificial lambs.

        On the other hand, there is already a Hispanic plurality in Harris county and a majority pretty much all south of San Antonio. These areas are now consistently Democratic. This will be exacerbated further by Trump’s rhetoric this year. This will continue to shift the state especially after the old racists begin to die. Helping too is the continuing cartel wars in Mexico which will bring more immigration in the form of middle class entrepreneurs that sell their assets in Mexico and come here to start new businesses. Big market in HB1 visas here.

        Bottom line, I think ’16 is probably too soon. In 2020 you’re going to have a Hispanic plurality essentially statewide AND you’ll have the census data to realign the Congressional districts. Now this is where the Democratic party can either seize the opportunity or get caught with its thumb up it’s ass like it did in 2010. If the former happens, you’ll see the state voting blue for an entire generation.

        • Curt Richardson

          From our last conversation, that’s what I was thinking, also. Where do you think the large Evangelical population goes? Trump is very unpopular with them, and if he picks Newt, that should only increase. Maybe Hillary is screwing with Trump’s head, or maybe she has access to polling data we don’t?

          • BlueTex

            I posted something to this regard last week, I think. One of the characteristics of Texas is that a disproportionate number of people embrace the prosperity gospel. Houston is the home of Joel Osteen and Ed Young.

            That movement is compatible with the idea of Trump as a successful businessman. More specially, the notion of being blessed and receiving God’s abundance. As I mentioned to you on my last answer, I really feel we shouldn’t get excited about Texas going blue this year. The 2020 census and my optimistically expected Hispanic wave are what I think will finally do it…BUT, it will probably be something like 50.5 to 49.5.

            The Republican counterattack should be, as it always is, disenfranchisement. So Hispanics in Texas need to be ready to fight. It’s going to get messy, but then that is how Texas likes its politics.

            Incidentally, check out a movie called All the Way. It’s about LBJ’s first year in office. Bryan Cranston nails the part.

          • Curt Richardson

            I will. TY.

          • Curt Richardson

            I saw a clip on youtube. You’re right, he nails it. Holland Taylor wasn’t bad as Ann Richards, but I got to meet her in person. She was one of a kind.

          • Curt Richardson

            We may have discussed this already, have you read Robert Caro’s biographies on LBJ? Three big volumes, and you won’t be able to put them down.

          • BlueTex

            I keep wanting to dive into Caro’s work but I’m always distracted with one thing or another. It seems to require much from its reader, much like Francis Fukuyama’s books on political order and decay. Hopefully, this summer with my son out of school I’ll finally take the plunge.

            In our conversation about Texas politics, have a look at Colin Woodard’s American Nations.

          • Curt Richardson

            Thank you. I will.

          • Curt Richardson

            Caro’s books look daunting, but you won’t be able to put them down. I get a kick out of the Bernie kids on here, complaining about Hillary’s corruption, and saying we need another LBJ, who could make real change. I just chuckle to myself and think “If you only knew…” I put American Nations in my Amazon cart.

  • Alki

    …and people call Hillary tone-deaf?

  • growe

    His metaphor is self-serving and stupid anyway.
    A brave and noble captain goes down with the ship even when he bears no blame.

    That is NOT what happened here. Ken was as reckless as the clown on the Exxon Valdez, and once caught lied, cowered, passed the buck, whined, shrieked he would not leave.

    Now that worthless captain was finally thrown overboard, but if not cornered like a plague ridden rat, Starr would have put on a skirt and hopped in a lifeboat. He is a turd.

    • lookolook

      Hilariously funny similies and metaphors. You must like Shakespeare as I do with a lot of heart!

      • growe

        Why yes I do!

  • HKeith

    He can shove the ship.

  • Donkey Haute

    Appoint Bill Clinton as Special Prosecutor to investigate Starr.

  • Chris Leatherman

    Karma has been busy lately. First Denny Hastert and now Kenny Starr. I’m pleased.

    • growe

      Karma, like Hillary, is also just getting warmed up.

      • Chris Leatherman

        Hell, yes! I can’t wait to see Republican heads explode on the night of Nov. 8th when the news anchor says, “It is 11PM on the east coast and the polls have closed in California. Based on exit polling we can project that Hillary Clinton has been elected 45th President of the United States”.

        • Curt Richardson

          Could she get there w/o the west coast? A 10 pm call would be even better. uncork the champagne.

          • Chris Leatherman

            It could happen if she carries all the Obama states plus N.C. and Ga. I think her carrying N.C. is definitely within the realm of possibility. Ga. will be tougher, but doable if Trump implodes.

          • Curt Richardson

            I was counting on NC, with the dismal ratings of Burr and McCrory. I read today where Burr is trying to make changes to the “Bathroom bill” in order to save his skin. You live there. What’s your take on it?

          • APV

            NC has some of the fastest growing suburbs in the region. In the recent polls Trump is under performing Romney 2012 among suburban voters by 11 points, so, that should favor Clinton. Per Wash Post analysis, based on demographic changes alone, with no other change except passage of time, the same 2012 race in NC will result in Obama win in 2016. But NC has also lost a lot of manufacturing jobs. Trump’s trade protection message would have an appeal in those communities.

          • Curt Richardson

            NC has also lost a lot of revenue over the “Bathroom Bill”. I like the prospects for picking up a Senate seat and the Governorship. That, I would think, will also help Hillary.

          • APV

            Agree. Burr has upside down approval rating. The Gov race will also be close. Republicans could lose that state in all 3 races – President, Governor, and senator.

          • Chris Leatherman

            It has, and it is hurting most where it counts, in the big counties.

          • Curt Richardson

            I hope more artists continue to pull out.

          • Chris Leatherman

            That certainly helps, but what really needs to happen, IMO is for companies on the scale of Bank of America to threaten to move its HQ out of Charlotte and American Airlines to close its SE hub there. That would get the rapt attention of the politicians in Raleigh.

            To wit, Gov. Nathan Deal in GA, who is as conservative as they come, vetoed a bill similar to HB2 because the big money folks in Atlanta essentially said. “Do it or else”. Atlanta is all about money; it is the economic engine of Georgia. That goes and Georgia reverts to being little more than a rest stop on the way to Florida.

          • Curt Richardson

            Well, Texas is Mississippi with good roads. I’ve been a Bank of America customer for over 20 years. They just sent me a survey. It couldn’t hurt.

          • Curt Richardson

            That is a great idea. I’m technically challenged, but if we could get a petition on Facebook to AA and BOA to pull out I’m sure we could get thousands of signatures.

          • Curt Richardson

            I like Alabama with better beaches.

          • Chris Leatherman

            If Clinton can turn in big margins North Carolina’s 10 largest counties, which run from Blue to purple, and she can get a really good AA turnout down east I think she can do it. The rural and medium sized Piedmont counties and the mountain counties other than Buncombe (Asheville) and Watauga (Appalachian State) are probably lost causes. On the whole I am optimistic about N.C. at the presidential level.

          • Chris Leatherman

            I feel more confident about McCrory being tossed than I do Burr. On top of HB2, McCrory has done some really bone-headed things that have pissed Tarheels off considerably. For instance, we now have a flat state income tax and people are learning it is not all it was cracked up to be. We also have a car repair tax that the Gen. Assembly imposed to help make up revenue shortfalls. It is not popular. Then there is the Dan River coal ash spill and the sweetheart deal McCrory handed Duke Energy. Burr has been in tough spots before and has pulled through. Ross is a good candidate, but I’m not certain she is well enough known. We’ll see how her campaign progresses.

          • Curt Richardson

            You’re more reliable than the polls.

          • Chris Leatherman

            LOL! We’ll see.

          • APV

            PPP poll out today has Trump leading Clinton by 9 points and leading Sanders by 7 points in GA.

          • Curt Richardson

            If Newt is on the ticket, which I think is likely, he should be able to salvage GA.

          • Chris Leatherman

            As a former GA resident, I’m not sure Newt would help much. I doubt he’d bring in any voters that Trump doesn’t already have. He is a transplant from PA who managed to do OK on the Atlanta political scene, but he has never ran for statewide office (other than the GA GOP primary in 2012). Even in the loopy world of Georgia politics, Gingrich is seen as being loopy by a lot of Peach State voters.

          • Curt Richardson

            That’s encouraging, although GA seems like a steep climb for Hillary. I would love for her to win in a record landslide. The truth is I would be happy with the ’08 result, and taking the Senate. I will work for more, but if she can bring the Senate with her she can accomplish quite a lot.

          • Chris Leatherman

            It is a steep climb, but not as steep as it would have been 30 years ago, or even 20. Apart from the most rural areas, the Southeast from VA to FL is undergoing rapid change. Even in SC, which folks don’t talk about that much. As a native of the region I am amazed by it all.

          • Chris Leatherman

            That’s not far from where it ended up in 2004, 2008 and 2012 when I lived in GA. Kerry pulled in the mid 40s in 2004, Obama pulled 47% in 2008 and almost 46% in 2012. There is a large AA community (30% of the state), a significant Hispanic and Asian presence (10% of the state) and a large Northern transplant population around Atlanta. These factors help keep GA competitive. They can almost outvote the white Republican counties in rural GA, but not quite yet. Another factor that could come into play is the Libertarian Party. GA has one of the best organized and most active parties in the country. In statewide elections their candidates often pull 5-7% of the vote. I’m hoping Johnson can do as well in November.

          • Curt Richardson

            Wouldn’t they harm Clinton more than Trump? They are pro-choice, pro gay marriage, pro gay rights, active on the environment.

          • Curt Richardson

            I like single digits. Normally, the Republican would be up 15-20.

          • lookolook

            “Ga. will be tougher, but doable if Trump implodes”.

            As sure he would.

        • Lol, except California is a foregone conclusion. The election should be settled after the polls close out east.

    • Curt Richardson

      I’m tickled. 🙂

      • lookolook

        Me too.

    • lookolook

      Yeah, Karma they say is a b***h. How true!

  • MackTheAbsurd

    Kenneth Star is conflating his actions with heroism. MY HEAD EXPLODED! I have known real heroes. My father walked across Europe in WWII. My Father In Law was on an LST and manned a gun. Star is no hero.

    Interesting enough, a coworker recently (before this came out) is voting for TRump because he thinks the Clintons should pay the country back for the Millions lost in the investigation. My response was no, Kenneth Star needs to pay that money back.

    • lookolook

      Those types of people are upside down in their reasoning. They’re biased and no reasoned argument can easily change their minds because they’re wicked people. A lot of people reason with the brains in their heads, but a whole lot of assholes reason with the colons in their rectums!

  • Mike

    Another “holier than thou” christian gets what’s coming to him, partly.

    • lookolook

      Christian!

  • richo123

    Ahoy landlubbers is that Cap’n Trump I see walking the plank now?

  • Red Phillips

    First captain I recall seeing more or less go down without his ship.

  • esro

    Seems like some people willing to give Starr a pass on this have convenient amnesia about what a sanctimonious and megalomaniacal bastard he was in the 90s.

  • Calbengoshi

    I think it will be interesting to see how many lawsuits are filed in which Starr is named as a defendant for his actions that allowed, if not encouraged, campus officials to act improperly when conducting so-called investigations of sexual crimes allegedly committed by members of Baylor’s football and other teams.

  • growe

    I think the compelling part where he apologized to the women who were raped.
    Raped and then ignored or told to go away.

    Oh wait, he didn’t mention the victims at all. How very strange.
    Oh wait, silly me, POOR LITTLE KEN is the victim here.

    I keep forgetting women don’t exist for Republiclowns Inc.