Perry Says Biden Never Came Up In His Ukraine Talks

When it comes to dealings with Ukraine, Energy Secretary Rick Perry told CBN News he probably has the most expansive relationships as any cabinet secretary but says he’s never heard Joe Biden or his son Hunter come up in conversation. 

Said Perry: “I had a conversation with – a phone call – with Rudy Guiliani about it. I’ve talked to the previous ambassador. I’ve talked to the current ambassador. I’ve talked to Kurt Volker, Gordan Sondland, the EU ambassador- every name that you’ve seen out in the media and not once, not once as God as my witness, not once was a Biden name – not the former vice president, not his son ever mentioned. Corruption was talked about in the country but it was always a relatively vague term of, you know, the oligarchs and this and that and what have you.”