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Polls Underestimated Trump’s Support

November 9, 2016 · 5:53 pm ET · Leave a Comment

Vox: “The polls were quite close in their forecast for Clinton’s support. Clinton was expected to get 47 percent of the vote; she’s got 47.7 percent so far. On average, the polls understated her state-level support by about a percentage point.”

“Trump, however, was expected to get 44 percent of the vote, and he now has 47.5 percent; the polls undershot his support considerably… As the undecided made up their minds, and as third-party supporters moved toward the major party candidates (as they tend to do in a campaign’s final days), it looks like Trump picked up almost all of them.”

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The Polls, Forecasts and Political Scientists Were All Wrong

November 9, 2016 · 8:19 am ET · Leave a Comment

NBC News: “The polls were wrong — all of them. So were the experts, the political consultants and the seasoned officials in both parties who predicted Donald Trump would lead his party to ruin. So were the markets, which had anticipated a Hillary Clinton victory and crashed overnight as her electoral firewall caught ablaze. So was every living president and past presidential nominee of both parties, save Bob Dole, all of whom opposed Trump. So was this reporter and so many like him — and Trump told me as much.”

“Even the GOP polling numbers and analytics we were privy to didn’t show Trump winning. The biggest mistake we made was viewing what seemed to be a very stable race in the polls (with Clinton holding a durable lead), but what ultimately turned into anything but.”

Jake Tapper, on CNN:  “It’s going to put the polling industry out of business. It’s going to put the voter projection industry out of business.”

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The Story of Election Night

November 8, 2016 · 10:58 pm ET · Leave a Comment

Our intense focus on election forecasting models over the last few months seems entirely misplaced when this can happen in a single night.

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The National Polls Suddenly Converge

November 8, 2016 · 6:13 am ET · Leave a Comment

Nate Silver: “Seven of the 19 polls have Clinton leading by 4 points; another four have her ahead by 3 points… It’s worth raising an eyebrow, though, when the polls (other than the L.A. Times) show a range this tight at the end of an election, especially given that they’d diverged so much earlier in the campaign. That probably reflects some degree of herding — for instance, because pollsters stick surveys that seem to be outliers in a file drawer rather than publishing them. So the tight range of polls shouldn’t be taken to mean that everyone’s figured exactly how to poll this challenging election just in the nick of time.”

“Still, the polls clearly agree that Clinton is the favorite, and perhaps has a slight wind at her back for Election Day.”

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Nate Silver Dethroned as King of Political Stats

November 7, 2016 · 10:29 pm ET · Leave a Comment

Wired: “Forget Nate Silver. There’s a new king of the presidential election data mountain. His name is Sam Wang, Ph.D.”

“Haven’t heard of him just yet? Don’t worry. You will. Because Wang has sailed True North all along, while Silver has been cautiously trying to tack his FiveThirtyEight data sailboat (weighted down with ESPN gold bars) through treacherous, Category-Five-level-hurricane headwinds in what has easily been the craziest presidential campaign in the modern political era.”

“When the smoke clears on Tuesday—and it will clear—what will emerge is Wang and his Princeton Election Consortium website and calculations (which have been used, in part, to drive some of the election poll conclusions at The New York Times’ Upshot blog and The Huffington Post’s election site). What will be vindicated is precisely the sort of math approach that Silver once rode to fame and fortune.”

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Is Nate Silver Unskewing Polls In Trump’s Direction?

November 5, 2016 · 4:14 pm ET · Leave a Comment

Huffington Post: “The short version is that Nate is changing the results of polls to fit where he thinks the polls truly are, rather than simply entering the poll numbers into his model and crunching them.”

“Silver calls this unskewing a ‘trend line adjustment.’ He compares a poll to previous polls conducted by the same polling firm, makes a series of assumptions, runs a regression analysis, and gets a new poll number. That’s the number he sticks in his model ― not the original number.”

“He may end up being right, but he’s just guessing. A ‘trend line adjustment’ is merely political punditry dressed up as sophisticated mathematical modeling.”

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Many Fewer High Quality Polls This Year

November 5, 2016 · 7:00 am ET · Leave a Comment

“One reason there’s so much uncertainty in the race so close to Election Day is the sharp decline in high-quality polls this year,” Politico reports.

“FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver calculated the number of polls in competitive states released from Thursday evening through the day on Friday. In all, Silver counted 67 polls across 17 states.”

“That seems like a robust number, but of the 67 polls, only 5 were conducted by live telephone interviewers randomly calling voters on landlines and cell phones — still considered by many to be the most reliable form of polling.”

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Trump Is Just a Normal Polling Error Behind

November 4, 2016 · 1:47 pm ET · Leave a Comment

Harry Enten: “Even at the end of a presidential campaign, polls don’t perfectly predict the final margin in the election. Sometimes the final polls are quite accurate. An average of national polls in the week before the 2008 election had Barack Obama winning by 7.6 percentage points. He won by 7.3 points. Sometimes, however, the polls miss by more. Four years ago, an average of survey results the week before the election had Obama winning by 1.2 percentage points. He actually beat Mitt Romney by 3.9 points.”

“If that 2.7-point error doesn’t sound like very much to you, well, it’s very close to what Donald Trump needs to overtake Hillary Clinton in the popular vote. She leads by 3.3 points in our polls-only forecast.”

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Pay No Attention to the ‘Phantom Swings’ In Polls

November 3, 2016 · 9:01 am ET · Leave a Comment

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If it weren’t for the craziness of this election, we might notice that the 2016 presidential campaign is actually ending very much like the race four years ago. The Democrat holds a small lead while the Republican scrambles in the final days to flip traditional blue states like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

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Why the Polling Averages Could Be Misleading This Year

November 2, 2016 · 12:42 pm ET · Leave a Comment

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I’m a big fan of polling averages in predicting the outcome of an election. They’ve worked very well in the past few cycles.

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Clinton Campaign Dismisses Tracking Poll as Bad

November 1, 2016 · 5:01 pm ET · Leave a Comment

Hillary Clinton’s campaign described the ABC News-Washington Post tracking poll that showed Donald Trump ahead as “bad polling,” according to Politico.

Said a senior Clinton aide: “Sorry. It’s just not what we see at all; it’s not what other people seem to have. There just seems to be something about that model that seems off.”

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Where Are All the Good Polls?

November 1, 2016 · 8:49 am ET · Leave a Comment

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Most readers know by now that overreacting to a single poll is foolish. Any good poll can still be an outlier statistically. It’s best to stick to polling averages which help filter out the noise.

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Make Your Own Crosstabs

October 24, 2016 · 12:18 pm ET · Leave a Comment

The YouGov Election Model allows you segment voters by demographics, such as age, gender, race and education.

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Four Pollsters With Same Data Had Different Results

September 20, 2016 · 10:52 am ET · Leave a Comment

Nate Cohn: “We decided to share our raw data with four well-respected pollsters and asked them to estimate the result of the poll themselves.”

The result? “A net five-point difference between the five measures, including our own, even though all are based on identical data. Remember: There are no sampling differences in this exercise. Everyone is coming up with a number based on the same interviews.”

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Polling Averages Can Sometimes Be Misleading Too

September 20, 2016 · 9:02 am ET · Leave a Comment

Stuart Rothenberg: “On Election Day 2012, the RealClearPolitics polling average found incumbent President Obama “leading” Republican Mitt Romney by seven-tenths of a point – a statistical dead heat. The actual final result, an Obama victory of 3.9 points, was very different.”

“I cite these numbers not to challenge the RCP average or disparage the pollsters who got the race wrong… Still, the 2012 ‘miss’ should remind us that polling isn’t perfect and even ‘averaging,’ a reasonable strategy, can mislead. Averaging may smooth outliers, but what if one poll always seems to be an outlier, like the Los Angeles Times/USC tracking poll?”

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Can We Trust the Polls This Year?

September 6, 2016 · 8:37 pm ET · Leave a Comment

Politico: “While volatility at this stage of the campaign isn’t unexpected, the latest polling data point to an stunningly unstable election environment, unlike any in recent decades.”

Said pollster Neil Newhouse: “There’s every reason to believe that there is huge instability in the current electorate. Four years ago, there were probably 6, 7, 8 percent of voters up for grabs. Now you have 17, 18 percent up for grabs.”

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Beware the Unskewers

September 2, 2016 · 7:00 am ET · Leave a Comment

Harry Enten: “It’s easy to find fault with a poll, even from the best pollsters. Anyone passionately arguing that a poll is wrong because its sample has ‘too many [xx]’ or ‘too many of this group are voting for [xx]’ is probably wrong. As you dig into a survey’s crosstabs — looking at college-educated white men, for example, or Hispanics 65 years or older — you’re sacrificing sample size for specificity. The margins of error of subsamples can get huge. Further, most pollsters weight their results by demographics (such as age and race) and not attitudes (like party identification). They do so because historically this has produced the most accurate result. Picking apart individual polls is usually a bad use of time, and the people doing it tend to have a motive.”

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Which Polls Are the Most Skewed?

August 24, 2016 · 5:55 pm ET · Leave a Comment

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With new polls coming out every day, it’s easy to be misled by partisan cherry picking of polls most favorable to one candidate or another. But as we’ve learned over the last few cycles, polling averages tend to give a much more accurate view of the presidential race.

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